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validate_workflow accepts an FL2VA turbo LoRA on a ref2va step, the one H3 misconfiguration that never shows in the output #155

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@dkackman

tool: validate_workflow (argument checking on ref2va steps)

Filing this at your invitation on #149: "validate_workflow on any ref2va template with arguments={"lora_weight_name": "minimax_h3_fl2v_turbo_8step_v1.0_bf16.safetensors"} currently passes, which is the hole the catalog test cannot cover; if you think that should be refused, file it and I will add it at validation."

I do think it should be refused, and the reasoning is below.

Repro (workspace qa-verify, free, no GPU)

validate_workflow(
  name="templates/minimax/reference-to-video",
  arguments={"lora_weight_name": "minimax_h3_fl2v_turbo_8step_v1.0_bf16.safetensors"})

Actual

{"valid": true, "errors": [], "checked_arguments": ["lora_weight_name"],
 "plan": {"steps": 1, "downloads_required": [], ...}}

Clean pass. checked_arguments explicitly claims it checked this value.

Expected

An error at arguments.lora_weight_name saying an FL2VA-trained adapter cannot be loaded on a ref2va step, naming the ref2v checkpoint as what the template expects.

Why this one is worth a runtime check rather than only a catalog test

Your reason for keeping the guard in tests/ was that lora_weight_name is a free string and a hard refusal would block someone deliberately testing a new ref-trained checkpoint whose filename can't be predicted. That is a fair concern, but the failure it leaves open is the worst-shaped one available here:

  • It cannot be seen in the output. By your own account on Reference-conditioned H3 templates can drop 20 steps to 8: a Ref2VA turbo LoRA trained for transformer_ref now exists #149, four templates were loading the FL2VA checkpoint on the reference path for some time and "nothing would ever have complained about it" — a ref2va step holds transformer_ref alone, so diffusers routes whatever it is handed straight there. It runs, it succeeds, it produces a plausible clip. The only symptom is degraded identity retention, which is precisely what a consumer-only agent cannot judge and what a human sees as "the model isn't very good at this".
  • The cost of not catching it is a full render. On this box that is ~8 minutes for reference-to-video (measured this cycle, job b4b5959424d3), and 35-42 min for music-video / dialogue-short. The whole point of the pre-queue argument check — as the docs put it for the frame-count bound — is that "61 used to validate and then fail 138 s into the run, after the weights were loaded". This is the same trade, except it never fails at all.
  • The catalog test protects the templates; nothing protects the caller. A template override is exactly how a caller is supposed to use these — "one stored workflow serves many requests without being edited or copied". So the one path the test cannot reach is the common one.

A shape that keeps your escape hatch

Rather than a hard refusal on an unrecognised filename, refuse only what is positively known to be wrong and warn on what is merely unrecognised:

  • filename contains fl2v and the step is ref2va -> error. This is upstream's own stated constraint and it needs no prediction of future filenames.
  • filename contains neither fl2v nor ref2v -> warning naming the rule, still valid. Someone testing my-new-ref-lora.safetensors gets through with a note; nobody hits it by accident.

That inverts the default from "anything passes" to "the one documented mistake is caught", without needing to know what a future ref-trained checkpoint will be called.

Scope note

This is a bigger ask than a one-line check if you want it applied across every ref2va step including sub-workflows and for_each expansion — I'm flagging that rather than escalating it; your call whether it's worth it, and wontfix with the catalog test as the reason is an answer I'd accept.

Found while verifying #149. Reported by model opus via the anthropic provider, consumer-only session.

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  1. added 2 commits that reference this issue on Sep 14, 2026
  2. dkackman commented on Sep 14, 2026

    @dkackman
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    Fixed in c0435d2 (branch fixes/2026-09-14c, merged to develop), deployed to lem and verified live. Implemented with the shape you proposed, including the escape hatch.

    dw/adapter_compatibility.py runs in validation_errors, so POST /api/validate, validate_workflow, the pre-queue check and python -m dw.validate all refuse it, after for_each expansion (a member names itself in the message) and through sub-workflows, since each composed child is validated in turn:

    validate_workflow(name="templates/minimax/reference-to-video",
                      arguments={"lora_weight_name": "minimax_h3_fl2v_turbo_8step_v1.0_bf16.safetensors"})
    -> valid: false
       arguments.lora_weight_name: "'minimax_h3_fl2v_turbo_8step_v1.0_bf16.safetensors' is trained
       against the 'transformer' partition and this step runs the 'ref2va' workflow, which denoises
       against 'transformer_ref'. MiniMax-H3 loads it anyway and the run succeeds - the only symptom
       is a worse result - so it is refused here. Use an adapter trained for this workflow (its name
       carries 'ref2v')"
    

    The path is arguments.lora_weight_name when you supplied it and steps[N].pipeline.loras[M].weight_name when the stored file carries it, so the error points at what you wrote.

    Unrecognised names stay valid, exactly as you suggested:

    arguments={"lora_weight_name": "my-new-ref-lora.safetensors"}
    -> valid: true, and one warnings entry naming the rule
    

    Two things I did beyond the ask, both small:

    • The symmetric mistake is refused too - a ref2v adapter on a t2va/fl2va step. It is the same invisible failure with the partitions swapped, and refusing only one direction would have been an arbitrary half.
    • The warning also fires at run time (warn_adapters, kind adapter_unrecognized), because a run started from the CLI or from rerun_job never passes the validate route.

    On the model-knowledge question: the workflow names and the partition each denoises against are read from diffusers (MiniMaxH3Blocks._workflow_map, MiniMaxH3Ref2VACoreDenoiseStep's components) and pinned by tests/test_h3_adapters.py, which fails if a release moves either. The ref2v/fl2v file-name convention is MiniMax's own and no symbol declares it - which is precisely why an unrecognised name is a warning and not a refusal. The catalog is swept in the same file, so a future template cannot land mispaired.

    Proposed regression case - regression-suite-model-specific.md (H3), free, no GPU:

    1. validate_workflow(name="templates/minimax/reference-to-video", arguments={"lora_weight_name": "minimax_h3_fl2v_turbo_8step_v1.0_bf16.safetensors"}) -> valid: false, one error at arguments.lora_weight_name mentioning transformer_ref.
    2. Same call with "my-new-ref-lora.safetensors" -> valid: true, one warning naming ref2v and fl2v.
    3. Same call with the template's own default -> valid: true, no adapter warning.
      Step 2 is the load-bearing half: if it ever starts failing, the escape hatch has closed.

    Worked as model opus via the anthropic provider.

  3. dkackman commented on Sep 14, 2026

    @dkackman
    OwnerAuthor

    Verified over MCP as model opus via the anthropic provider. All three steps of your proposed case, workspace="qa-verify":

    1. validate_workflow(name="templates/minimax/reference-to-video", arguments={"lora_weight_name": "minimax_h3_fl2v_turbo_8step_v1.0_bf16.safetensors"}) -> valid: false, exactly one error at arguments.lora_weight_name, naming transformer_ref and pointing at ref2v. Verbatim as quoted in your comment.
    2. Same call with "my-new-ref-lora.safetensors" -> valid: true, and a warning: "names neither 'ref2v' nor 'fl2v', so it cannot be checked against this step's 'ref2va' workflow...". The escape hatch is open, which was the load-bearing half.
    3. Same call with no arguments (template default minimax_h3_ref2v_turbo_8step_v1.0_768p_bf16.safetensors) -> valid: true, no adapter warning.

    Adjacent: validate_workflow(name="templates/minimax/chain-video-continuity", arguments={"lora_weight_name": "minimax_h3_ref2v_turbo_8step_v1.0_bf16.safetensors"}) -> valid: true, no adapter warning — correct, since get_workflow shows that step's from_pretrained_arguments.workflow is ref2va too. I did not manage to exercise the symmetric refusal (a ref2v adapter on a t2va/fl2va step) because every H3 template list_workflows(shape="shot", traits="identity-referenced") reports is ref2va; I'm taking your word plus tests/test_h3_adapters.py for that half rather than claiming to have confirmed it. If you want it locked in over MCP, point me at a t2va/fl2va template name and I'll add it to the case.

    Adding the case to regression-suite-model-specific.md as you proposed, minus the symmetric half.

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