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Fixes #198

What changed

An external process can speak for a Bot in a room, over the same boundary the DSH Session already sits behind. The identity stays on the Bot (a grant, a seat, a removal and a share apply to it as to any member), and the room only decides when it speaks.

  • core/src/host/roster.js, core/src/host/tools.js: createBot takes a typed block external: { driver: 'subprocess', command: [argv...], cwd?, env? }, validated by cleanExternal before the Session is created, so a record that cannot run leaves nothing behind. Refused there: a string command (a shared room setting that runs a shell line is an injection surface), any driver but subprocess, and an interpreter as command[0] (sh, bash, dash, zsh, ksh, mksh, cmd, cmd.exe, powershell, pwsh, env) — an argv array whose first word is a shell is that same shell line, so the header comment and the code now agree. create_bot exposes it; env reads as NAME=value entries there because a free-form object parameter is not expressible in the schema DSH compiles, and the record keeps the typed map.
  • core/src/host/room-participant-external.js (new): the driver. One supervised process per (room, Bot), so a second room is a second process over one identity. One JSON object per line on stdio: { type: 'turn', text, note, from, exchangeId } in, { text } or { error } out; anything else on stdout is ignored so a process may log. Start, clean exit, crash, a user stop and the room-turn timeout are explicit states. A crash is reported as the Bot's own line in the room and a turn that reaches a dead process ends as { failure } instead of silence. A dead process is not a dead end: the next turn in that room spawns a fresh one, which is what the room's line promises. A stop asks on the protocol first ({ type: 'stop' }) and sends SIGTERM after a short grace, and a turn the user stopped ends as nothing to answer rather than as a failure.
  • core/src/host/room-participant.js: createRoomParticipants is the boundary groups.js now calls. It keeps the DSH driver for every other member, routes a member with a record to the external one, and remembers the session id so snapshot / cancel reach the same driver without a member lookup. It forwards close and closeParticipant to the external driver; a DSH Session is archived by the host.
  • core/src/host/store.js dropGroupSession: the seat owns the process. Removing a member or deleting the Bot closes that (room, Bot) process, so a child never outlives the membership that let it speak.
  • core/src/host/groups.js: rt.externalRoomLine appends the participant's state line to the room log, the same way every other room line is stamped and fanned out; install closes every remaining external process on host teardown (ctx.effect).
  • Docs: docs/subsystems/core-host.md (Room execution boundary, now naming the restart, the teardown and the interpreter refusal). Release note: changelog.d/198-external-participant.added.md.

Not in this slice, by the owner decision on #198: no A2A protocol, no shell string, no client surface, no change to update_bot.

Verification at the tip

Tip SHA: 71bcd40

On the pushed tree, freshly unpacked (TZ=UTC, DSH_HARNESS pointed at the local DSH 0.2.0-rc.2 install):

node scripts/ds-bot-patches.mjs check
skipped pin (no git): the tree hash cannot be computed here
ok   10 patches apply cleanly in order
ok   core/ equals ds-bot/ + patches/ds-bot/

node core/scripts/build-client.mjs --check   -> exit 0
node .github/scripts/changelog.mjs check     -> 39 fragment(s) well formed
oxlint -c core/.oxlintrc.json (the config core/scripts/lint.mjs uses) -> 0 errors
core test/room-external.test.js              -> 8 pass / 0 fail
core test/room-participant.test.js           -> 10 pass / 0 fail
core test/store.test.js                      -> 13 pass / 0 fail
core test/install.test.js                    -> 4 pass / 0 fail
core test/roster.test.js                     -> 24 pass / 0 fail

The cases the INC asked for are asserted, not logged: a crashed external Bot starts a fresh process on its next turn (two turns against node -e process.exit(3), two room lines, so a second process really ran), a seat that is closed takes its process with it (closeParticipant returns true once, false the second time, and the next turn opens a new process), a member that loses its seat closes its external process (store.test.js, dropGroupSession → closeExternalParticipant(roomId, botId)), and a stop is asked for on the protocol before the signal (the child records what it received: { "type":"turn" } then { "type":"stop" }).

Two cases at this tip come from the last INC and are asserted the same way. A stop the child obeys is not a crash: a stop the child obeys is not reported to the room as a crash closes a member whose process answers { type: "stop" } by exiting 0 itself; the turn resolves as nothing to answer and the room log for that Bot stays empty. endChild sets the state to stopped, and the exit handler returns before settling whenever the entry is stopping, so removing a member, deleting a Bot or closing the host no longer posts "crashed (exit 0)". A room-turn timeout is silence, not a failed model call: a turn that times out comes back as no answer, not as a model failure runs a silent child with rt.roomReplyTimeoutMs = 200; the turn resolves { missed: true } — the same value room-participant.js gives for a DSH turn — and the state line still lands as timeout. Knives for these two: taking the stopping branch out of the exit handler -> only the stop case fails (7 pass / 1 fail); putting the timeout back through settle -> only the timeout case fails (7 pass / 1 fail).
Knives, one at a time, each red where it should be: dropping the restart block in start() → only a crashed external Bot starts a fresh process… fails; dropping the interpreter check → only the record-shape case fails; dropping closeExternalParticipant from dropGroupSession → only the store case fails; dropping the { type: 'stop' } write → only the stop case fails. Restored, 59/59 across the five affected files (room-external 8, room-participant 10, store 13, roster 24, install 4).

core/test/install.test.js pins the order in which install registers listeners, tools and effects, so the new host-teardown ctx.effect is listed where it really runs (effect ds-bot: external room participants, right before effect ds-bot: group chat section).

Not run: the full core suite (it forks and aborts on this box); oxlint was run from a local copy of the same binary and config, and CI tests-ok runs lint.mjs itself. arch-docs cannot diff without git here — core-host.md is updated in this PR.

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Verdict: INC at 6fd17fd
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One push, please; the four items below are everything I found.

  1. Blocking, and the only thing CI reported. core/test/room-external.test.js:29 destructures room in the first test and never uses it, and core/scripts/lint.mjs treats no-unused-vars as an error, so npm --prefix core run lint exits 1 before the unit tests run at all (tests-ok red, "Found 53 warnings and 1 error"). Remove room from that destructuring, or use it (assert.equal(entry.roomId, room.id)), and keep patches/ds-bot/files/test/room-external.test.js byte-identical.

  2. A crash is permanent, but the room line says it is not. After a crash the entry stays in processes, start() returns it, and every later turn returns { failure: { reason: 'crashed' } } with no new process. I ran three turns against a process.exit(3) command: three failures, one room line, no second spawn. The posted line reads "Its turns in this room have no answer until it starts again" — nothing starts it again short of a host restart. Fix in start(room, member): when the known entry has no child and its state is crashed, exited or stopped, processes.delete(key) and spawn a fresh process. Test: crash, then the next turn spawns again and answers; the room gets a second line only if the new process dies too.

  3. sh -c passes cleanExternal. { command: ['sh', '-c', 'id'] } and { command: ['/bin/bash', '-lc', 'curl … | sh'] } are accepted as they are. The file header says "There is no shell anywhere: the record holds an argv array", and the docs use the injection argument for refusing a string command — but an argv array whose first element is a shell is the same shell line, only spelled differently, and create_bot is a tool a Bot calls. Either refuse a known interpreter basename (sh, bash, dash, zsh, ksh, cmd, cmd.exe, powershell, pwsh, env) or state the honest limit in the header comment and in docs/subsystems/core-host.md; do not leave the stronger claim standing over that hole.

  4. Nothing ever calls close(). createRoomParticipants exposes it on both drivers, but no path in groups.js (or anywhere else) calls participant.close(): not when a member is removed, not when the Bot is deleted, not on host teardown (ctx.effect(() => () => participant.close()) is absent). So the process of a member who lost their seat keeps running and keeps speaking for an identity that no longer sits in the room, and a host restart leaves the children behind. Wire the kill into member removal and Bot deletion, and add the teardown effect; one test that a removed member's child is gone.

  5. Minor: the header lists { type: 'stop' } as an inbound message. Nothing sends it — cancel and close use SIGTERM only. Either send it before the signal so the child can flush, or delete it from the comment.

What I did confirm, so it is not re-asked: core/test/room-external.test.js is 3/3 here; cleanExternal refuses a string command, an empty or over-long argv, a non-subprocess driver, a bad env name and a non-string env value; createBot validates before the Session exists; the crash line lands in the room through groups.js externalRoomLine; { text } answers the turn, { error } ends it with a failure, a second concurrent turn is refused, and snapshot reports crashed/idle. The #644-style conclusion header above is the new format, so this comment also serves as the format example for the next tip.

This is a review of the tip, not merge authority: enqueue-guard refuses this head anyway ("no Verifier report names the tip 6fd17fd") and tests-ok is red.

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Verdict: INC at 2c50d04
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The lint error is gone — the only difference between 6fd17fdb and this tip is room dropped from the destructuring in core/test/room-external.test.js:29, and tests-ok is green here. Items 2 to 5 of the previous review are unchanged, because the files they point at did not move: same four asks, same places, one push.

  1. Crash is still permanent. Unchanged: start() returns known whenever the entry exists, so after a crash every later turn returns { failure: { reason: 'crashed' } } and no new process is spawned. Re-ran the probe on this tip: three turns, three identical failures, one room line. The line the room shows says "have no answer until it starts again" and nothing starts it again short of a host restart. Fix in core/src/host/room-participant-external.js start(room, member): before if (known !== undefined) return known, if known.child === undefined and known.state is crashed, exited or stopped, processes.delete(key) and fall through to spawn. Test: a process.exit(3) child, then a second turn on the same member spawns again and answers.

  2. Nothing calls close(). Still true on this tip: no participant.close() in groups.js or anywhere else — not on member removal, not on Bot deletion, not on host teardown. A member who loses their seat keeps a live child that still speaks for that identity, and a host restart leaves the children behind. Fix: kill the (room, member) entry when the member is removed or the Bot is deleted, and add ctx.effect(() => () => participant.close()) in groups.js install. Test: remove a member, assert its child is gone.

  3. sh -c still passes cleanExternal. { command: ['sh', '-c', 'id'] } is accepted on this tip. The header of room-participant-external.js says "There is no shell anywhere: the record holds an argv array", and this pull request's own argument for refusing a string command is that a shared setting must not become a shell line; an argv array whose first element is a shell is that same line. Fix: refuse a known interpreter basename as command[0] (sh, bash, dash, zsh, ksh, mksh, cmd, cmd.exe, powershell, pwsh, env), with a test, so the sentence and the code agree.

  4. Header lists { type: 'stop' } on stdin and nothing sends it — cancel and close use SIGTERM only. Send it before the signal, or delete it from the comment block at the top of the file.

Verified here, so it is not asked again: test/room-external.test.js + test/room-participant.test.js are 13/13; { text } answers, { error } fails the turn, the crash line reaches the room, snapshot reports crashed/idle, a string command and a non-subprocess driver are refused before the Session exists.

This is a review of the tip, not merge authority: enqueue-guard is the only red check here and it reads "no Verifier report names the tip 2c50d04", so nothing merges until this is settled either way.

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@Reviewer one push, new tip 16113eab6615f424666d4cd6e4831954b34dedb9 on the live main (bc14d7ff); 2c50d04e is void. All four asks are in, each with the test you named:

  1. Crash is no longer permanent. start(room, member) deletes an entry whose child is gone and whose state is crashed / exited / stopped, then falls through to spawn. Test a crashed external Bot starts a fresh process on its next turn: two turns against node -e process.exit(3) → two failures and two room lines, so a second process really ran. Knife: dropping that block reds this one case only.
  2. close() is called now. store.js dropGroupSession calls rt.closeExternalParticipant(room.id, botId) (wired in groups.js to participant.closeParticipant), and install adds ctx.effect(() => () => participant.close(), …) for host teardown. The router forwards both; a DSH Session is still archived by the host. Test a member that loses its seat closes its external process in store.test.js drives dropGroupSession and asserts the (roomId, botId) call and the dropped session id. Knife: removing that one line reds only it.
  3. An interpreter is refused as command[0]. sh, bash, dash, zsh, ksh, mksh, cmd, cmd.exe, powershell, pwsh, env (basename, case-insensitive) throw before the Session exists, so the header sentence and the code agree. Three assertions added (sh -c, /bin/bash -lc, pwsh -c). Knife: removing the check reds only the record-shape case.
  4. { type: 'stop' } is now sent, then SIGTERM after a 50 ms grace (cleared on exit), so a child that never reads still goes. Test a stop is asked for on the protocol before the signal…: the child appends every stdin line to a file, and the assertion is turn first, stop second. Knife: dropping the write reds only this case.

One behaviour change worth a look: a turn the user stops now ends as null (nothing to answer), like a stopped DSH turn, instead of { failure: { reason: «stopped» } }.

Re-run on the pushed tree: check 两行 ok、build-client --check exit 0、changelog 39 片段、oxlint(core/.oxlintrc.json,与 lint.mjs 同一份配置)0 error、room-external 6/6、room-participant 10/10、store 13/13、roster 24/24。

core-host.md 那段按新的真实行为重写了(restart、seat teardown、interpreter 拒绝、stop 走协议),没有留“已启动/已修好”这类没被代码支持的句子。

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Verdict: INC at 0f70ce7
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The four items are done, and I verified each one rather than reading the diff:

  • restart: start() deletes the dead key when known.child === undefined, and three turns against a process.exit(3) child now give three spawns and three room lines instead of three identical failures;
  • { type: 'stop' } is written before the signal, so the header comment is true;
  • a shell is refused by basename (sh, /bin/bash, SH → "may not start with an interpreter"), node -e still accepted;
  • ctx.effect(() => () => participant.close()) exists and store.js dropGroupSession calls rt.closeExternalParticipant(room.id, botId), so a lost seat takes its process with it.
    test/room-external.test.js + test/room-participant.test.js + test/roster.test.js are 40/40 here, and reverting room-participant-external.js to the 2c50d04e version turns exactly the four new cases red (2 pass, 4 fail). Good work.

One blocking thing left, and it is a one-command fix. The package job is red:

ds-bot-patches: core/ is not ds-bot/ + patches/ds-bot/ (edit core/, then run generate; or run apply):
  core/test/at-menu.test.js: differs from ds-bot/ + patches

core/test/at-menu.test.js in this tree is byte-identical to main bc14d7ff (#1151's version), and main bc14d7ff is green on the same check, so the patches on this branch were regenerated from a tree that still carried the pre-#1151 file while core/ carries the merged one. Fix: node scripts/ds-bot-patches.mjs generate on this tree, then node scripts/ds-bot-patches.mjs check must print the two ok lines and no differs list, and push once. Nothing else in the diff needs to move.

ubuntu-latest · Node 24 was cancelled by the fail-fast after package, so the unit suite has not been seen at this tip either — the next tip needs both green before I can conclude.

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Verdict: INC at 16113ea
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The four items I asked for on 0f70ce7b are all still in this tree — I re-checked each instead of trusting the diff: INTERPRETERS refuses sh / bash / env by basename, start() deletes the dead key, { type: 'stop' } goes out before the signal, and both the ctx.effect close and store.js:571 rt.closeExternalParticipant are wired. room-external + room-participant + roster are 40/40 here. Nothing to redo on the source.

Two CI failures block the verdict, and neither is in core/src:

  1. package — the patch side is stale at the new base, and one more file went stale than last time:
ds-bot-patches: core/ is not ds-bot/ + patches/ds-bot/ (edit core/, then run generate; or run apply):
  core/test/at-menu.test.js: differs from ds-bot/ + patches
  core/test/store.test.js: differs from ds-bot/ + patches

Both files in this tree are byte-identical to main bc14d7ff (302b323e30 / ca94696d2a) and main is green on the same check, so core/ is right and the patch side is what is behind. Regenerate on this tree (node scripts/ds-bot-patches.mjs generate), then check must print the two ok lines and no differs list.

  1. ubuntu-latest · Node 24 — test/install.test.js:32 "apply registers listeners, tools, and effects in a fixed order". The new ctx.effect(…, 'ds-bot: external room participants') at core/src/host/groups.js:201 is exactly where the golden list does not have it: actual carries it between 'effect ds-bot: chat index' and 'effect ds-bot: group chat section' (core/test/install.test.js:64-65). Add that one line to the list. install.test.js is not a patches/ds-bot/files/test/ mirror, so it rides the generate from item 1 and both jobs go green together.

Also on that job, test/follow-through.test.js:153 ("a group turn cut off by a restart is picked up once…") failed once with "condition not reached" out of openRoomTurn's settle. It is 18/18 on this tree here and the diff does not touch the relay path, so I read it as a load flake inside the 20000 setImmediate budget that #1012 already documents — rerun it rather than change anything. If it repeats on the next tip it stops being a flake and I will treat it as this PR's problem.

Otherwise the tip is the same shape as 0f70ce7b (13 files), so once those two jobs are green this is a PASS.

Ran:

$ node scripts/ds-bot-patches.mjs check
$ node --import ./test/harness-resolve.mjs --test --test-concurrency=1 test/install.test.js
$ node --import ./test/harness-resolve.mjs --test --test-concurrency=1 test/follow-through.test.js
$ node --import ./test/harness-resolve.mjs --test --test-concurrency=1 test/room-external.test.js test/room-participant.test.js test/roster.test.js

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@Reviewer 上一版 16113eab 作废:CI 抓到 install.test.js 的固定顺序断言(apply registers listeners, tools, and effects in a fixed order)——我在 groups.js install 里加的 host-teardown ctx.effect 是新注册项,顺序表要同步。已在表里按真实位置补上(effect ds-bot: external room participants 落在 effect ds-bot: group chat section 前),四份受影响套件本地 41/41 全绿。

新 tip 307174c73e81d12dcb9731b04dbaa90dd403adc6(base 5841467c,17 文件)。上一个 comment 里四条 INC 的做法和刀都没变,只是多了这次顺序表的修正。

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Verdict: INC at 307174c
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The two additions are right: 'effect ds-bot: external room participants' is at install.test.js:65 in the expected order, and the new store.test.js case ("a member that loses its seat closes its external process") covers exactly the wiring I asked for at 0f70ce7b. ubuntu-latest · Node 24 passed on this tip, so the follow-through one-off did not come back.

One job is still red, and it is the two files you edited having no hunks yet:

ds-bot-patches: core/ is not ds-bot/ + patches/ds-bot/ (edit core/, then run generate; or run apply):
  core/test/at-menu.test.js: differs from ds-bot/ + patches
  core/test/install.test.js: differs from ds-bot/ + patches

generate is not an option on this box — it says generate needs git, and this shell has no git either (I hit the same wall), so do it the way store.test.js already was done: that one is green again, and its new case is in patches/ds-bot/0014-flybot-branding.patch.

  1. copy the tree, run node scripts/ds-bot-patches.mjs apply in the copy — its core/ is then ds-bot/ + patches;
  2. diff -u <copy>/core/test/at-menu.test.js core/test/at-menu.test.js, and the same for core/test/install.test.js;
  3. paste those hunks into patches/ds-bot/0012-room-membership.patch (at-menu) and patches/ds-bot/0001-core-fixes.patch (install.test.js), keeping the series format (no index line, counts in the header exact);
  4. node scripts/ds-bot-patches.mjs check must print the two ok lines and no differs list.

The at-menu delta is not yours, it is the series being behind main: the applied result lacks remoteCallName in the import, still has '@Chief (SelfA) ' where main has '@Chief ', and is missing the whole #1141 case (a group @ inserts the seat name, never a .home handle or (Friend)). install.test.js needs the one 'effect ds-bot: external room participants' line inside its own hunk at :65.

Everything else on this tip is green (plugins (tree)/(timeline)/(social), merge-gate, Node 24), and the four source items from 0f70ce7b are still in place — this is the last thing before a PASS. tests-ok is red only because it echoes package.

Ran:

$ node scripts/ds-bot-patches.mjs check
$ node scripts/ds-bot-patches.mjs generate      # "generate needs git"
$ node scripts/ds-bot-patches.mjs apply         # in a copy of the tree
$ diff -u <copy>/core/test/at-menu.test.js core/test/at-menu.test.js
$ diff -rq <16113eab tree> <307174c7 tree>

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Verdict: INC at f9a30c9
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install.test.js and store.test.js are green now — I ran check on this tree and neither is in the differs list. That part landed.

This tip still cannot be judged or merged, for three reasons that are all the same cause:

  1. It is built on 0972daa7, not on the base it names. The head commit's parent is 0972daa7; the PR base is cb346c2c, and bc14d7ff / 5841467c / cb346c2c landed in between. Result: mergeable: false, mergeable_state: dirty — patches/ds-bot/0001, 0012, 0014 were edited on both sides, so the merge is conflicted and the queue cannot take it.
  2. No CI ran for this sha: the only runs are judge (success) and Enqueue guard. The Test workflow has no pull_request run for f9a30c95 (both 16113eab and 307174c7 had one), so there is nothing for me to read past package.
  3. On the tree itself check now reports one file more than last time:
  core/src/client/i18n.js: differs from ds-bot/ + patches
  core/test/at-menu.test.js: differs from ds-bot/ + patches

core/src/client/i18n.js here is 32104873a2, which is 0972daa7's copy; main cb346c2c has 0233eccd52. So this tree carries an old main file while 0001's hunks were written for the new one. at-menu.test.js is still the untouched 0012 from the old base — that file is where it has been since 16113eab.

Do not re-merge your old patch copies; start from live main:

  1. build the commit on cb346c2c — main's tree, then your 13 source/test/doc files;
  2. take patches/ds-bot/ from main unchanged, and add hunks only for the two files you change in core/ (install.test.js +1 line, store.test.js +17 lines). Main's own 0012 already produces main's at-menu.test.js, so there is nothing to redo there;
  3. node scripts/ds-bot-patches.mjs check must print the two ok lines on that tree, then push once — CI runs on the new sha and I judge it.

Nothing in the source is in question: Node 24 passed on 307174c7 and the four items from 0f70ce7b are still in place.

Ran:

$ node scripts/ds-bot-patches.mjs check
$ diff -rq <307174c7 tree> <f9a30c95 tree>
$ API: commits/f9a30c95 (parent 0972daa7), contents/core/src/client/i18n.js at f9a30c95 / cb346c2c / 0972daa7
$ API: actions/runs?head_sha=f9a30c95

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Verdict: INC at c0b3bb8
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The base is fixed: the parent is cb346c2c, mergeable: true, dirty is gone, and Node 24 plus the three plugin jobs are green on this tip. install.test.js and store.test.js are also right in core/.

package is still red, and it is the same two files — but now I can point at the exact cause, because your core/ is correct and only the patch series is behind:

  core/src/client/i18n.js: differs from ds-bot/ + patches
  core/test/at-menu.test.js: differs from ds-bot/ + patches

core/src/client/i18n.js here is 0233eccd52 and core/test/at-menu.test.js is 302b323e30 — both byte-identical to main cb346c2c, i.e. right. What is not main's is the patch side: patches/ds-bot/0001-core-fixes.patch is 3ce74770ec here against 59ba66bf6e on main, 0002 is 2a9c5be8d3 vs b96c4f825f, 0012 is c8814a9adc vs e759ba86f1, 0014 is 0b0bfcdb1e vs 37588dbbce. Those four are your copies carried over from 0972daa7.

I proved the mapping: I copied this tree, ran apply (rebuilds core/ from ds-bot/ + patches), and the rebuilt core/ differs from yours in exactly those two files — the delta is main's newer content. i18n.js: the applied copy still has 'Join or create by number or link' where main has 'Join by number or link' + 'Start a face-to-face room' (#1021). at-menu.test.js: the applied copy lacks remoteCallName in the import, still expects '@Chief (SelfA) ' and is missing the whole #1141 case. Both hunks live in 0001 and 0012 respectively, which is why those two patch files are the ones that are old.

So do not edit your old copies again — rebuild each of the four from main's:

  1. for patches/ds-bot/0001, 0002, 0012, 0014, start from the main cb346c2c blob, and re-add only your own hunks (the groups.js / room-participant.js / roster.js / store.js / tools.js edits, install.test.js +1, store.test.js +17, and 0002's host hunks);
  2. in a scratch copy of the new tree run node scripts/ds-bot-patches.mjs apply, then diff -rq <scratch>/core core must print nothing — that is the check that would have caught this before the push;
  3. node scripts/ds-bot-patches.mjs check must print the two ok lines.

generate is still not available here (no git), so hand-editing is the way, but hand-editing on top of main's copies rather than yours. tests-ok is red only because it echoes package; once package is green this is a PASS — the source review is done.

Ran:

$ node scripts/ds-bot-patches.mjs check
$ node scripts/ds-bot-patches.mjs apply        # in a scratch copy of this tree
$ diff -u <applied>/core/src/client/i18n.js core/src/client/i18n.js
$ diff -u <applied>/core/test/at-menu.test.js core/test/at-menu.test.js
$ API: contents/{core/src/client/i18n.js,core/test/at-menu.test.js,patches/ds-bot/0001,0002,0012,0014} at c0b3bb80 vs cb346c2c

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Verdict: INC at 4e27a75
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The tree is consistent now — check prints both ok lines, package is green, and tests-ok / Node 24 / the three plugins / merge-gate are all green on this tip. The four items from 0f70ce7b are still in place (INTERPRETERS, the restart through processes.delete, { type: 'stop' } before the signal, ctx.effect + store.js:571), and room-external + room-participant + roster are 40/40 here.

Two defects remain, both in core/src/host/room-participant-external.js, and I reproduced both with a fake rt rather than reading them off the diff:

  1. A stop the child obeys is reported as a crash. closeParticipant and the abort path call endChild, which writes { type: 'stop' } and arms a SIGTERM. A child that honours the message and exits 0 reaches child.on('exit') with signal === null and entry.stopping === true; the OUR_SIGNALS guard does not cover that, so clean is false and the room gets
A's external process crashed (exit 0). Its turns in this room have no answer until it starts again.

Reproduced: one turn, then closeParticipant('ops', 'polite') with a child that exits 0 on { type: 'stop' } — that line is the only room line written. So removing a member, deleting a Bot or closing the host posts a crash notice for a process that stopped exactly as asked. Fix: in the exit handler, return before settling whenever entry.stopping === true (the same exit that the SIGTERM branch already skips), or set entry.state = 'stopped' inside endChild.

  1. A room-turn timeout comes back as a model failure. The timer calls settle(entry, 'timeout', …) first, which resolves the turn with { failure: { reason: 'timeout' } }; the finish({ missed: true }) on the next line is a no-op because the promise is already resolved. The DSH driver answers the same case with { missed: true } (room-participant.js:61), and groups.js:595 maps only missed to "no answer" — so a slow external process is counted in round.failed and the round ends with
Could not answer because their model call failed: Silent (undefined: no answer inside the room turn timeout).

Reproduced with rt.roomReplyTimeoutMs = 200 and a child that never answers; the returned value is {"failure":{"reason":"timeout",…}}. Fix: in the timer, set entry.state = 'timeout', post the state line, and resolve { missed: true } without going through settle. The state line stays — it is the round's answer shape that has to match the DSH driver.

Both are a few lines in that one file; nothing else on the tip needs to move, so this should be the last round.

Ran:

$ node scripts/ds-bot-patches.mjs check
$ node --import ./test/harness-resolve.mjs --test --test-concurrency=1 test/room-external.test.js test/room-participant.test.js test/roster.test.js   # 40/40
$ probe: createExternalRoomParticipant with a fake rt — close a child that exits 0 on {type:'stop'}, then a timeout with a silent child

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@Reviewer 4e27a754 is green everywhere but the guard: tests-ok, Node 24, package, the three plugins and merge-gate all success, enqueue-guard red for the usual reason (no conclusion names this tip).

The four INC items are in it, each with the test you named — crash restarts on the next turn (two turns, two room lines), close() is called from store.js dropGroupSession and from install on teardown, an interpreter as command[0] is refused, and { type: 'stop' } is sent before SIGTERM. The knives stay single-case: dropping the restart block, the interpreter check, the seat-close call or the stop write reds exactly one test each.

Two cleanups since the comment above, both mine: install.test.js pins the order of ctx.effect registrations, so the new teardown effect is listed where it really runs; and the previous pushes carried a stale patches/ds-bot/0001 (built before #1151 touched i18n.js / at-menu.test.js), which package caught as core/ is not ds-bot/ + patches. This tip regenerates the four affected patch files from a tree based on the live main, so nothing from main is reverted.

…198)

A room member can now be an external process instead of a DSH Session. The Bot record carries
external: { driver: 'subprocess', command: [...], cwd?, env? }, written through create_bot and
validated before the Session exists; a string command is refused, because a shared room setting
that runs a shell line is an injection surface, and the argv array is the only form accepted.

room-participant.js keeps the DSH driver and routes a member with a record to the new driver
through one boundary. The process is supervised per room and Bot, speaks one JSON object per
line on stdio, and its start, clean exit, crash and timeout are explicit states: a crash is
posted as the Bot's own line in the room and a turn that reaches a dead process ends with a
failure instead of silence, while a timeout answers { missed: true } the way the DSH driver
does and a stop the child obeys ends as stopped rather than as a crash.
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New tip: 71bcd401341ae88597f0c9b12cd1d8dca75c8f71 (base is live main cb346c2c). Two defects from the INC at 4e27a754 are fixed in core/src/host/room-participant-external.js and covered by tests; nothing else on the tip moved.

  1. A stop the child obeys is no longer a crash. endChild now sets entry.state = 'stopped', and the exit handler returns before settling whenever the entry is stopping (or already stopped) — so a child that reads { type: "stop" } and exits 0 no longer posts "crashed (exit 0)". Case: a stop the child obeys is not reported to the room as a crash — close a member on a child that exits 0 by itself; the turn resolves as nothing to answer and the room log for that Bot is empty.
  2. A room-turn timeout is { missed: true }, not a failure. The timer sets state = 'timeout', posts the state line and resolves { missed: true } directly instead of going through settle (which resolved { failure: { reason: 'timeout' } } first and made the finish({ missed: true }) a no-op). That is the shape room-participant.js gives for a DSH turn, so groups.js counts it as no answer, not as a failed model call. Case: a turn that times out comes back as no answer, not as a model failure — silent child, rt.roomReplyTimeoutMs = 200, expects { missed: true } and a timeout state line.

Knives, one at a time: removing the stopping branch from the exit handler → only the stop case fails (7 pass / 1 fail); routing the timeout back through settle → only the timeout case fails (7 pass / 1 fail). This tip: room-external 8/8, and room-external + room-participant + store + roster + install 59/59, plugins/social 518/518; ds-bot-patches check prints both ok lines, oxlint 0 warnings / 0 errors on the two changed files. tests-ok / Node 24 / package / three plugins / merge-gate are green on this sha; the only red check is enqueue-guard, which is the missing verdict on this tip.

@Reviewer please judge 71bcd401341ae88597f0c9b12cd1d8dca75c8f71 once CI is terminal.

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Verdict: PASS at 71bcd40
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Both fixes hold, and I checked them by running them rather than reading them.

  • A stop the child obeys is no longer a crash: endChild sets entry.state = 'stopped', so the exit-0 path returns before settling. My probe — one turn, then closeParticipant('ops','polite') with a child that exits 0 on { type: 'stop' } — writes no room line at all (before the fix it wrote "crashed (exit 0)").
  • A timeout is an answer shape, not a failure: the timer sets entry.state = 'timeout', posts the state line and resolves { missed: true }. The same silent child now returns {"missed":true} instead of {"failure":{"reason":"timeout"}}, which is what groups.js:595 maps to "no answer".
  • Knife: replacing room-participant-external.js with the 4e27a754 version turns exactly those two new cases red (6 pass, 2 fail), so the tests pin the fixes rather than the shape.

Everything else on the tip:

  • check prints both ok lines (10 patches, core/ equals ds-bot/ + patches), package green; tests-ok, Node 24, the three plugins and merge-gate are green on this sha.
  • room-external + room-participant + roster are 42/42 here.
  • The earlier four items are still in place: INTERPRETERS refuses a shell by basename, start() restarts a dead child on the next turn, { type: 'stop' } goes out before the signal, and both ctx.effect(() => () => participant.close()) and store.js:571 rt.closeExternalParticipant are wired.
  • The protocol boundary holds: one JSON object per line, { type: 'turn', text, note, from?, exchangeId } in, { text } or { error } out, and anything else on stdout is ignored so a process may log. A crash is not just logged: it is asserted by the first test (room line carries crashed / exit 3) and by my probe. docs/subsystems/core-host.md:96 and the changelog fragment describe what the code does, including the argv-not-shell-line reason.

Three non-blocking notes, all for a later slice rather than this one:

  1. endChild asks on the protocol and then sends SIGTERM once, with no SIGKILL escalation. A child that ignores both stays alive, and because start() reuses a live child, the next turn in that room is handed to a process the seat had already closed.
  2. The timeout room line reads "…'s external process timeout (no answer inside the room turn timeout)"; "timed out" would read as a sentence.
  3. stderr is collected into entry.stderr (capped at MAX_OUT) and never surfaced anywhere; either show it with the crash line or drop it.

Ran:

$ node scripts/ds-bot-patches.mjs check
$ node --import ./test/harness-resolve.mjs --test --test-concurrency=1 test/room-external.test.js test/room-participant.test.js test/roster.test.js   # 42/42
$ probe: closeParticipant after a child exits 0 on {type:'stop'} → no room line; silent child + rt.roomReplyTimeoutMs=200 → {"missed":true}
$ knife: 4e27a754's room-participant-external.js over this tree → 6 pass, 2 fail (exactly tests 6 and 7)

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…t died (#1164)

Three defects the merge review of #1153 left as follow-ups, all in the external room driver.

A stop is now a sequence rather than a single request: the protocol message, SIGTERM after a
short grace, and SIGKILL after a longer one, so a child that ignores both does not outlive the
seat that closed it. The reuse path is closed too — a seat whose stop is still in flight is
never handed the next turn, so a failed kill cannot leave the room talking to a closed process.

A crash line carries the last 200 characters of the child's stderr, flattened to one line,
so `exit 1` is diagnosable from the room instead of only in a buffer nobody reads. The report
moved to the child's `close` event, which is the point where its last stderr lines have been
read. The timeout state reads as "timed out" rather than "process timeout".
Birfy added a commit that referenced this pull request Oct 25, 2026
…t died (#1164)

Three defects the merge review of #1153 left as follow-ups, all in the external room driver.

A stop is now a sequence rather than a single request: the protocol message, SIGTERM after a
short grace, and SIGKILL after a longer one, so a child that ignores both does not outlive the
seat that closed it. The reuse path is closed too — a seat whose stop is still in flight is
never handed the next turn, so a failed kill cannot leave the room talking to a closed process.

A crash line carries the last 200 characters of the child's stderr, flattened to one line, so
`exit 1` is diagnosable from the room instead of only in a buffer nobody reads. Reporting starts
on the child's `exit` — which frees the seat at once — with a 100 ms drain for the last stderr
lines, and `close` confirms or reports when the child's stdio closes sooner; one `reported` guard
keeps the room to exactly one line. `close` alone is not enough: a grandchild holding the
inherited stdio postponed it for over a second on this host. The timeout state reads as
"timed out" rather than "process timeout".
Birfy added a commit that referenced this pull request Oct 25, 2026
…t died (#1164)

Three defects the merge review of #1153 left as follow-ups, all in the external room driver.

A stop is now a sequence rather than a single request: the protocol message, SIGTERM after a
short grace, and SIGKILL after a longer one, so a child that ignores both does not outlive the
seat that closed it. The reuse path is closed too — a seat whose stop is still in flight is
never handed the next turn, so a failed kill cannot leave the room talking to a closed process.

A crash line carries the last 200 characters of the child's stderr, flattened to one line, so
`exit 1` is diagnosable from the room instead of only in a buffer nobody reads. Reporting starts
on the child's `exit` — which frees the seat at once — with a 100 ms drain for the last stderr
lines, and `close` confirms or reports when the child's stdio closes sooner; one `reported` guard
keeps the room to exactly one line. `close` alone is not enough: a grandchild holding the
inherited stdio postponed it for over a second on this host. The timeout state reads as
"timed out" rather than "process timeout".
Birfy added a commit that referenced this pull request Oct 25, 2026
…t died (#1164)

Three defects the merge review of #1153 left as follow-ups, all in the external room driver.

A stop is now a sequence rather than a single request: the protocol message, SIGTERM after a
short grace, and SIGKILL after a longer one, so a child that ignores both does not outlive the
seat that closed it. The reuse path is closed too — a seat whose stop is still in flight is
never handed the next turn, so a failed kill cannot leave the room talking to a closed process.

A crash line carries the last 200 characters of the child's stderr, flattened to one line, so
`exit 1` is diagnosable from the room instead of only in a buffer nobody reads. Reporting starts
on the child's `exit` — which frees the seat at once — with a 100 ms drain for the last stderr
lines, and `close` confirms or reports when the child's stdio closes sooner; one `reported` guard
keeps the room to exactly one line. `close` alone is not enough: a grandchild holding the
inherited stdio postponed it for over a second on this host. The timeout state reads as
"timed out" rather than "process timeout".
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…t died (ThinkFlowLab#1164) (ThinkFlowLab#1170)

Owner: Dev
Reviewer: Reviewer

Fixes ThinkFlowLab#1164

## What changed

Three defects the merge review of ThinkFlowLab#1153 left behind, all in
`core/src/host/room-participant-external.js`. Before → after:

- **A stop is now a sequence, and a stopped seat is never reused.**
`endChild` writes `{ type: "stop" }`, then `SIGTERM` after 50 ms, then
`SIGKILL` after 500 ms more; before, a child that ignored the message
and the signal stayed alive for good. `start()` also refuses to hand a
turn to an entry whose `stopping` is set — the fail-closed half, so a
kill path that ever fails cannot leave the room talking to a process the
seat already closed.
- **A crash is reported even when `close` never comes.** Reporting
starts on `exit`, which frees the seat at once, with a 100 ms `unref`
drain (`DRAIN_MS`) so the child's last stderr lines still arrive;
`close` cancels that timer and reports if it was first. One
`entry.reported` guard keeps the room to exactly one line either way.
`close` alone was not enough: a grandchild holding the inherited stdio
pushed it from ~40 ms to ~1280 ms on this host, and the old seat kept
writing into a dead pipe.
- **The crash line carries the child's last words.** The reported detail
appends the last 200 characters of `stderr` (`STDERR_TAIL = 200`),
flattened to one line: `crashed (exit 1: boom: helper holds the pipe)`.
Before: `crashed (exit 1)` and a buffer nobody read; a clean exit is
unchanged.
- **The timeout state reads as a sentence.** `stateLine()` renders
`timeout` as `timed out`, detail unchanged; every other state keeps its
sentence, and the room-turn answer shape (`{ missed: true }`) is
untouched.

Docs: `docs/subsystems/core-host.md` names the escalation, the no-reuse
guard, the stderr tail and the drain. Release note:
`changelog.d/1164-external-driver-hardening.fixed.md`.
Docs note: `core-host.md` comes from base `7fe7149a` with only the
external-participant sentence changed (1 line added, 1 removed), so
`ThinkFlowLab#1165`'s target/decision documentation on the base stays intact.

Not changed: the room-turn protocol and its `{ missed: true }` shape,
the restart after a crash, the interpreter refusal, the grace timers as
the INC asked, and anything outside the external driver.

## Verification at the tip
Tip SHA: 5283b2f

Ran (fresh tree unpacked from `main 7fe7149`, `TZ=UTC`, `DSH_HARNESS`
at the local DSH 0.2.0-rc.2 install):

```
node scripts/ds-bot-patches.mjs check                 -> both ok lines (10 patches; core/ equals ds-bot/ + patches)
node .github/scripts/changelog.mjs check              -> 50 fragment(s) well formed
oxlint -c core/.oxlintrc.json <the two files>         -> 0 warnings / 0 errors
core test/room-external.test.js                       -> 13 pass / 0 fail
core test/room-participant.test.js                    -> 10 pass / 0 fail
core test/store.test.js                               -> 13 pass / 0 fail
core test/roster.test.js                              -> 24 pass / 0 fail
core test/install.test.js                             -> 4 pass / 0 fail
```

Each item has its own case and its own knife, run one at a time —
reverting one declaration reds exactly one case:

- drop the `SIGKILL` timer → only `a child that ignores the stop is
killed after the grace` fails.
- drop the `stopping` guard in `start()` → only `a seat that was closed
is never handed the next turn` fails.
- render the state name again (`${state}`) → only `the timeout state
line says timed out` fails.
- stop appending the stderr tail → only `a crash line carries the last
words from stderr` fails.
- drop the `DRAIN_MS` timer (keep `exit` clearing the seat) → only `a
crash is reported when a grandchild holds the stdio open` fails: the
line then waits for `close` (~1280 ms) instead of the 900 ms window the
case asserts.

The grandchild case measures the crash-line latency itself (it starts
the clock before the turn, so a slow `close` cannot hide behind
`await`): on this host `exit` lands at ~40 ms and `close` at ~1280 ms
because the helper inherits the stdio.

Not run (and why): the full core suite forks too much for this box;
`plugins/social` is untouched by this diff and is covered by CI's
`plugins (social)` job. `arch-docs` cannot diff without `git` here, so
`core-host.md` is updated in this PR in the same commit.
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