Input sucks

[leilei-]

Very formal issue on tracking these ancient SDL input bugs because I hadn't filed an issue about this yet:

SDL1:

• Mouse movement sometimes either struggles or skips (try moving the cursor in circles while at the main menu and watch it oval out)
• Alt-tab or restarting can cause stuck keys
• Alternate SDL dlls don't so much of a thing
• Inputs dropped on very low framerates
• Sometimes a ~ sends SDL_QUIT

SDL2:

• Input system can drop completely when after you bind a key and back out

Other:

• probably more ui/ fault, but it's possible to COM_QueueEvent overflow with larger menu scripts slowing down the performance to single digit frames.

[hellidox]

Input is terrible it's unplayable on my laptop because if i move the mouse more than two inches per year it doesn't go nearly as far as it should

[WillNilges]

Just curious, why two versions of SDL?

[The-Gig]

Input is terrible it's unplayable on my laptop because if i move the mouse more than two inches per year it doesn't go nearly as far as it should

Did you already set the mouse speed through the GUI (Setup > Controls > Look)?
If that doesn't work, more things you can may try are:

• Using updated "nightly builds" OA test binaries: https://files.poulsander.com/~poul19/public_files/oa/dev088/engine_windows_nightly/, as OA 0.8.8 binaries might have some sub-optimal mouse feeling, maybe due to some changes in DPI scaling handling Microsoft introduced with Windows 8.1 (https://openarena.ws/board/index.php?topic=4853).
• Fiddling with advanced mouse-related variables (here's the 0.8.8 defaults: sensitivity 5 (which is quite slow), cl_mouseaccel 0, cl_mouseaccelOffset 0, cl_mouseaccelstyle 5, m_yaw: 0.022, m_pitch 0.022), or with your OS mouse settings (like mouse acceleration or per-application High DPI Compatibility settings).

[leilei-]

Just curious, why two versions of SDL?

One is mandated by some distros/OSes/platforms where SDL1.2 is not available, and the other works on Windows 95 (and has potential for supporting other platforms) as well as older video card's drivers that can't initialize SDL2 at all.

Personally preferably, i'd like another option for compiling without SDL and using what Q3 used before.

[hellidox]

Oh my issue is actually that my mouse is garbage apparently

[leilei-]

I can assure you it's not your hardware and is a strong reason why there were always so many OA 0.7 players after 0.8's release. I get the bad mouse input too, and it got worse after Windows 10 :)

[hellidox]

I can assure you it's not your hardware and is a strong reason why there were always so many OA 0.7 players after 0.8's release. I get the bad mouse input too, and it got worse after Windows 10 :)

I know the input definitely got worse but my issue is definitely my mouse lol, i get the same issues in oa that i get in any other game